Franklin Hey! Thank you so much for this simple explanation! This has been so confusing for me and really helped clear things up. I need make a difficult traslation of a verses from german to english. They from a Middle Ages german poet.
The verses are:. Can you help me? I know spanish, french, english, some portuguese, but my german is poor, and worth if middle age german.
Thank you a lot for your time. German Language Blog. Thank you! Please check your inbox for your confirmation email. You must click the link in the email to verify your request. Singular 1 st Person 2 nd Person Dative mir dir Accusative mich dich Which grammar case we have to use in a sentence is determined by the verb or preposition of our phrase.
Prepositions The prepositions mit , von , zu , and bei require the dative case. Ich gehe nur mit dir dat. Ich gehe ohne dich acc. Das Geschenk ist von mir dat. Ich komme zu dir. Er ist bei mir. Verbs that take the dative antworten — to answer: Sie hat mir noch nicht geantwortet. Verbs that take the accusative anrufen — to call: Ich rufe dich morgen an. Tags: dich , dir , me , mich , mir , personal , pronouns , you. Keep learning German with us! Try it Free Find it at your Library. Share this: Share.
Bini: Ur explanation is one of the simplest and best I have found on the internet. Kenneth: Wunderbar; herzlichen Dank! Jass: I just want to know if there is a rule about it. Sandra: Jass Hi Jass, The only hints I can give are to check which grammar case a verb or a preposition requires. The form originated through assimilation of wir with a preceding verb form and subsequent unetymological segmentation.
The form with mir may either be a younger development in Middle High German, or a more colloquial form that only later appeared in writing. Older age is suggested by the great dominance of mir throughout modern dialects of High German. From Middle High German mir. See German mir etymology 2 for the details. Compare German mir. Compare also Aromanian mir.
Definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Don't think of it as if the mir was there all the time and you only had to decide whether or not to put the zu there. The reasoning is the other way round: kommen can go with the preposition zu which requires the dative pronoun mir. Now, let's think about how to me can be translated to German. There are several possibilities for translating to me to German, depending on context:.
To choose the correct one, you have to know whether the verb in question needs a dative object or an accusative object or a prepositional object. I hope it became clear that you cannot simply say that whenever an English sentence contains to me it has to be translated by zu mir or that an "implied" to me must be translated as mir. Sign up to join this community.
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Basically, if you express a direction, you use "zu", and if you just address the "whom", then it is without "zu". I have the feeling you are trying too hard to translate word by word. It is "zu mir kommen" because the word "kommen" uses a destination that needs a preposition, e.
And it is "mir geben" because the verb "geben" requires a dative object. You can say "komm mir" as in "Komm mir nicht so an", but that expresses a sentiment similar to "Don't you talk to me like that. Good question.
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